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Royal Harvest in Canada's Cannabis Wilderness with Kevin Varner, review by Tamara Lilien
Embark on an off-the-grid adventure with Kevin Varner, the mastermind behind Royal Harvest's award-winning cannabis strains. This episode sees us venturing into Kevin's world, where the untamed BC wilderness meets the pinnacle of cultivation craftsmanship. Discover the secrets behind strains like Sherbo and Frosted Fruit Cake, and learn how Kevin's dedication to the craft has led to his strains' triumphs in the face of nature's challenges. Catch our friend Tamara Lilien in the second segment for her review of Kevin's magic!
From the shores of Nova Scotia to the community that shaped his green thumb, Kevin's tale is one of resilience and growth. He shares his philosophy on cultivation, grounded in simplicity and effectiveness, which has helped new growers achieve quality without complexity. We tackle the transition from legacy methods to the legal sector, discussing the meticulous process required to maintain the soul of cultivation at a commercial scale. For those with a passion for the plant, Kevin's insights offer a roadmap to cultivating cannabis that stands out in quality and character.
As we wrap up our conversation, we give you a front-row seat to the cutting-edge of cannabis cultivation techniques. Learn about the art of enhancing terpene profiles, why General Hydroponics nutrients might just be your best friend, and the delicate dance of lollipopping and plant defoliation. Whether you're a seasoned grower or just starting to nurture your first plant, this episode is ripe with wisdom, inviting you to deepen your understanding and appreciation of the art and science behind growing top-tier cannabis. Join us, and let Kevin's journey inspire your own path in this ever-evolving industry.
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Speaker 3:What do you got? You were fired up there, dude. So we got an amazing guest, our boy Kevin Barnett. He's the CEO and master grower from Royal.
Speaker 2:Harvest. Yes, our homie from Royal Harvest. He's a master grower, winner of the Best Craft, cannabis, the Rolls-Bole, the Unicorn Music Festival this past summer, aka the Unicorn Cup, yeah, yeah, true, kevin, yeah, you bet that's a. And the Vancouver Collectors Cup, yeah. And I got a say man Like I have tried your weed before because you were blessed enough to like be a fan since day one, and you sent us You're like bro, yes, sir, because you got to know who Royal Harvest is. And as soon as you sent us those first samples and I got a say man like this is even more dials than the last time you sent it, like it's just so we were talking about this earlier. I agree, it's got a gassy forward with like hints of that like candied orange and like some baked good notes in there, some sort of that cakey-ness. It smells fantastic. And then what's the other one you got? It's the Sherbo.
Speaker 4:Yeah, this one took. This is the one that took the Unicorn Cup. This one was the Collectors Cup. That was it. The Frosted Fruit Cake was the Collectors Cup.
Speaker 2:I know it. Oh man, I know like they're like all your babies and stuff, like, do you have a favorite? If you had to pick one, I guess it's hard, right, you know?
Speaker 4:I'm looking forward to exploring what I have had for such a long time. You know it's all. This stuff is great, beautiful, but I'm excited to see what we can create and do. I have a lot of old breedings that I haven't even touched Like full stick test buddy, Like that's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, so dense amazing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, you can find, when you squeeze it, different notes every time. Right, Dude, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I'm going to roll some of that up, if you don't mind.
Speaker 4:Yeah, absolutely, that's what it's here for, absolutely.
Speaker 3:That's a. Wait, that's a fruit cake.
Speaker 2:This is the Sherbo. This is the Sherbo. Also, ladies and gentlemen, don't forget, if you truly want to get to a higher orbit, check out a Sheesh Cola, the official beverage of higher orbit. Sheesh baby, that's good.
Speaker 4:You know what? This is my first and it's amazing.
Speaker 2:It's really good, right, yeah, the Niagara Cherry Juice, the real cane sugar. I felt like I had something more to say to that. I was kind of botched buildup, but it's okay, we love Sheesh. That's all I was trying to say. You want to get to a higher orbit like we are.
Speaker 3:I don't know how we found the cans there. They just got restocked for back in action.
Speaker 2:Restocked for back in action Monday, and the Tangerine Dreams coming soon. Don't forget it. Shout out to our friends at Sheesh Soda.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I'm almost confused. We were talking a little bit before the show, of course, and I was. You know we were loving the weed. Was this grown like off-grid, like you're coming all the way from BC with this fire-bashing rate? What's the story with that?
Speaker 4:You know it's a complete crazy story the whole to be here right now. But as far as what's going on in the legit market and happening for me now, I ended up being very blessed to get this opportunity. But you know, in life we get many opportunities and it's finding those right ones. This was what I'd say was almost an impossible opportunity, like it was almost three and a half hours, four hours, one way from where I lived.
Speaker 4:It's in when I say the middle of the BC wilds, it's in the middle of the BC wilds. Like no power runs off generators, the homesteads are all off, like solar panel and stuff. So it was not only almost impossible to get services out there, trimmers, everything is so costly because now I'm paying extra to come finding Airbnb, we're running off a diesel and I mean when I tell you some of the most insane problems trying to get this to market, I've had to battle, like in the minus 40, shutting generators off to rooms that were built not proper. So it's been, pardon me, a battle to get to where it is. But, yeah, completely off grid. Every flower that has been on the market so far from us has been grown off grid.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it's, it's. It's like I said, nothing comes easy in life. That's crazy. Yeah, I mean, what are you going to do with it? So I've been very blessed and it's, you know, it's.
Speaker 3:It's creating a good jam from you know, at this point, that's awesome, man, and I guess so you know, going through that challenge and just kind of breaking through the other side, yeah absolutely. And and then I guess touching on it, so we're going to hopefully expect to see some of this your gelati's out in the market in Ontario.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that came down through joint venture.
Speaker 3:Joint venture was had some skews down here.
Speaker 4:I believe it was a rotating skew, so they were able to put a few different flavors down here for me, which was good, but you know again, it wasn't the push that we know. So it's just one step at a time. It was only very small, Like we. You know, we're 40 light micro at that point, so but now we just we got the frosted fruit cake coming for spring as well as the gelonade vape. So it's we're looking forward to, you know, the doors open. Now we're ready to start really ramping up, bringing in some new and crazy, amazing, amazing strains and some old schools, and you know Ontario's huge, Like I'll be very proud to be part of the Ontario market and looking forward to it.
Speaker 3:You can't wait to see it. Dude, how did you end up landing, I guess at West, because you mentioned you know you're from the East Coast originally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, you know it's a East Coast player boy, but we're going in the car to the bar, yeah.
Speaker 4:Not very far, but yeah, no, it's just where I come from. You know it's great people, amazing place, but it's it's, you know it's. It's almost like the wild West. So you know it was part of life. You're looking at what am I doing with myself and where am I? So I had an opportunity to first go to Alberta with my brother and we hit up the all-in-pass so I was still doing my medical grows there, doing a bunch of brokering, da-da-da.
Speaker 2:And then about Was this? What year was this Like? When did you start?
Speaker 3:And you did, you work with your brother then too, like growing.
Speaker 4:No, I was like I said this we'll go like this, start it at the like the age of 12. You know what I mean. So my family, where we come from, like there wasn't a lot money, was short. Nova Scotia has always been tight, highest taxes, not much work so it was always a struggle.
Speaker 4:So you know what, at a young age I would watch them struggle to pay the bills right A little bit. You know they always work hard but it's a struggle. So growing up in the community I did A lot of. My friends' parents were all about cannabis. Like you know, these guys have been growing since the beginning at times.
Speaker 4:So at the age of 10, 11, we were learning about it, seeing it was we, you know, we would be taught the medical properties, we would be told the goodness of it as well, as we knew it would help subsidize some income. So, you know, at the age of 12, our member mum saying to me what are those in other window, ledge up pots my up up, pop my first seedlings, right. So by the age of 12 years old, that summer of 13, I was hanging parents plants in my parents' basement and they're like how long does the house have to smell like this? So I mean they chose like I was adopted by them, right, and they chose to.
Speaker 4:You know, and I think through that, I had a lot of confusion in my life on who I am, what I was looking for and what I was searching for, and it took me, you know, into my 40s before I realized that's inside myself, right. So my parents chose to love me and just let me be me. They never fought it, they never embraced it. I come from a very, like I said, rough area. Great people, honestly, but when there's nothing and it's like doggy dog world, it's, it's rough and I mean I make my own decisions in life. I put myself where I was. But all of those experiences and all that stuff that I had to go through was for a reason, and you know kind of why we're sitting right where we are right now, very blessed. You know pure faith and belief and yourself, you know, know that you can get there no matter what, and it's kind of in a lifelong story to be here through that stuff.
Speaker 2:That's amazing, man. That's such a cool story. Were your life, family like farmers, by trade, like other things, not just cannabis.
Speaker 4:Well, no, my, my family was, was, my parents were not a boat cannabis at all, but the neighborhood I grew up in, the families I grew up around, like these guys were going down to Mexico to get weed, driving straight across the borders and all the way back.
Speaker 2:Sorry to interrupt. You Pass me the shirbol I swear to God like. Burner, you're a joker. It says this is a two gram cone. This is definitely more than two grams. Like there's no, like I anyways continue where you're.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, I was just saying the community I come from. They have been involved in cannabis for a very long time. So my family wasn't about it, but the neighbors and the my some of my best friends parents were. So through that I was exposed and taught the right way and taught the simple sciences. And I mean I've tried everything. I've been the worst grower ever. Do you know what I mean? To where I've got to a point where I'm very proud of what I do. So you know it's been trying every feed program, trying everything under the sun lessons, man.
Speaker 2:People got to remember that, right. I don't know you said it like. You know.
Speaker 3:You learned every time you fall in your face and you got to get this frosted fruit cake like just that shot of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm really digging. You know what I really enjoy? The moisture level and the cure. It's like spot on. I'm sure about two you know, and it's really tough when you're selling that dense. I feel like yeah it's.
Speaker 4:You know it's again. Years and years of trial and error. You know years of having great cures, years of having bad cures, but now it's become consistent. You know where it's, to a point where it's almost. You don't have to think about it, you just tell it's instinct.
Speaker 4:And the cool thing is, though, I've spent the last so many years when the market started going real bad, going and helping guys out, and so I know I can emulate that. I can teach that passion. You know it's it's been a long time coming, but I can walk into a facility and I can teach them the same philosophies and methods. It's so simple, Like I made it, so I can still have a life here. I'd be like running four or 500 lights with a couple guys in the back seat and making it pop off, but I was still able to have a little bit of a life right.
Speaker 3:So it's do you think a lot of growers now are over complicating things?
Speaker 4:then I guess, no, I, you know what. To each their own. There's so many different ways to get there and hats off to everybody, but I've tried it all. And then when I got serious well, not serious, but when I started thinking about the legal market and really dialing it in, I went all the way back to the simple science that I always ran and literally I've been consistently cut clean, fill, flip. You know, in the in the legacy market, I was 365 days with my flower lights. We would cut a room down, have it clean, that day refilled and by the next morning we're day one in flower. And it was that consistency, right. But we need to slow it down a little bit in this side because there's a lot of cleaning, a lot of, you know, technical stuff, but I get it and I understand it, but still we're still on that point where we cut clean, pretty much fill and flip right. So it's very simple, keep it simple.
Speaker 2:You're so passionate man, like, honestly, no wonder the weed tastes so good. Honestly, dude and I'm not saying this lightly, nobody paid me to say this this is some of the best legal weed I've seen, like no joke. The fossil fruit cake is phenomenal. I can't wait to see it come on Ontario, dude.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I can't wait to bring it here to me and, like Ontario is, as you guys know, it's like the biggest cannabis market in the world and you know we're fickle motherfuckers and I understand that and it's kind of it's a kind of spot where you can get lost too.
Speaker 4:So to me, it's about you know it's you, just you, just it comes down to doing it right, because you know, respect Ontario and how you guys are doing it and you know it's all about elevating. It's not like I want to come in and just you know, royal, this royal, that no, I want to come in and just put my best into it. So it makes it better for you know, myself and all those around, and you know, in that in turn we get a better industry. As I was saying to you earlier, it's kind of like what happened in the first five years. We really lost our respect to what we were. You know, we were the reason.
Speaker 4:People were paying their bills, the markets were functioning and when they cut that off, you know, everything went to a screeching halt and then, when big money came in and thought they could just create this amazing industry, it doesn't work that way, it doesn't. You know it's like the golf course analogy. The first guy comes, he builds a golf course, he goes broke building it. Second guy comes in, finish it, gets it right and makes money. So you know you've seen the first wave that happened. Everybody came in, they dumped money, figured here. This is no, it's not easy to grow weed.
Speaker 2:It's. Yeah, it's not easy to grow weed no one. And then scaling it up to the level that these people are trying to scale it up to is number two. Not easy, and you're going to lose something Ultimately, kev, don't you agree? Man? Like it's pretty hard to like put as much love and tender care into like the kind of piece that you're caring for for the frosted root cake.
Speaker 4:It comes down to the people. Like I said, I've just you know I'm just scaling myself. Do you know what I mean? So I'll be honest. I've got my first big room rolling in at this point. It is the most stinkiest, stickiest I have had since I can remember, because I've not had my best days in the legit market yet Right.
Speaker 2:How big is your room?
Speaker 4:right now. Well, the new facility, it's multiple. Oh sorry. Okay, so we have the 40 light micro, we have the 40 light micro and then we went into, we just went into a standard, okay, so it's, it's apparently we're going to get into that next segment, so I'm jumping the gun, as I usually do.
Speaker 4:It's all good, man, listen, it's just exciting to sit down and chop it up with you guys. It's it's been a long time waiting. I enjoy what you guys are doing, cause I mean not only me here to see you guys. I'm here to see you guys. You know like I love what you're doing. You guys are giving guys like me, brands like me, an avenue for to be heard, for people to understand us and who we are. You know like I'm here because of passion and love for what I do, like I've been through fucking excuse my language Hell.
Speaker 4:Okay, good, I've been through you know, honestly, hell and back, but I still got up every day, it didn't matter and kept putting the working. You know, like to me it's like lead by example. I still make mistakes, you know, I still fail myself and get upset, but I still it's mindset. It's. You know you become what you think about. And that's what one of the greatest people in my life taught me. And the last year since I got right with myself, new cannabis was my gift. But I honestly feel my purpose is more than that. It's, you know, to help elevate this industry, because I believe this industry can create real change in the world. Right, I always say it comes from the earth. It's going to give back to the earth, Right, so that's my feeling towards it. So it's, you know, I'm all in right.
Speaker 3:I definitely love what you stand for, man. I think that, like I love our community for sure, I feel like coming into this new legal market as it grows, it's like still kind of finding its identity in a way. Here's to that. But I definitely, you know, thanks to everyone who supports and you know supports small brands, and I mean you're vastly growing right, like so.
Speaker 4:Trying to. I'm trying to. You know I want to get it right. You know I want us to get the recognition we deserve. You know it's. I feel like. You know it's almost been embarrassing what has happened From the beginning, right, like people were getting such poor quality at first and you know it was a horrible introduction to what. Yeah, it should be right.
Speaker 3:So you know it's a yeah, for a lot of people I probably was there.
Speaker 2:Introduction yeah, that's a good point, man Um Kev. I gotta say, man, like your weeds really really good. Like, how did you incorporate some of your like legacy techniques into your cultivation? Now it's like is that what separates you apart, you think?
Speaker 4:it's all legacy like. This is a Lifetime of getting to where I am like. My feed program is 100% made up by me.
Speaker 2:That's sick.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so you know it's I've. It's just been a long time of of trial and error, trying this product, that product you know, realizing what works, and then, like I said, I get it. I got it simple and now it's just the little tweaks that help perfect what you're doing.
Speaker 2:That's incredible, dude. We really love it. I love the frosted fruit cake. I have a gift for you. I do have. I wanted to let you know that we got these in. We grew some. Willie, I know you've been following us.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we're some really wonder, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so we got some Willie's wonder seeds for you here. I also got these killer og beautiful as well, that kind of your bank man I know you'll put them to good use absolutely. And then we got some of our Hush that was washed by by Bam grown. You've been so generous and thank you so much for for coming man and being on the show.
Speaker 4:No, thank listen.
Speaker 2:I decided you couldn't send you home empty-handed.
Speaker 4:No, no, this is honestly a blessing to me. Like I look at my life right now and I was, you know, I think about when I was like 13, 14, saying to my mom this is what I want to do forever. You know, I got to a point in my life when I was like 16 and I'm looking around going am I doing wrong? But I'm helping people Facilitate where they never could. I'm helping people put dinner and food on tables and I'm like I never felt like I Was doing wrong. Like I said, and well, you know, I look at it like this. I do feel like I've been guided to be where I am and I share a story with you that I share with a lot of people. So this is kind of off topic a cannabis, but it's just where my heart is. So in my early 20s I was dating this amazing woman and she ended up dying in a car accident.
Speaker 1:So, about.
Speaker 4:So about this is this is listen to this. So about two years later I'm pulling on to the highway and I've never picked up a hitchhiker and I never did again. And I'm in my sports car and I barely put friends in there and there's this old, scummy guy hitchhiking, and step voice in my head said Kevin, you got to pick him up. So I stopped and picked this guy up. We start talking and car accidents come up. I'm like, yeah, no, my girl died in a car accident about two years ago. He's like really, my daughter died in a car accident about two years ago. It ended up being trees, his dad. He broke down in tears. It was like I've been wanting to meet you since they're passing. They told me how happy she was, but I kid you not.
Speaker 4:I've been through such madness and wild story yeah like that same voice has you know, whether it's your instinct or whatever you believe in, but that same voice has Got me to this point and it's like just keep following, just keep opening the doors and away we go and look at me. I'm sitting here with you guys right now you know what I mean getting ready to bring some beautiful weed into the Ontario market, like it's. It's. I'm so humbled and so blessed, you guys, and I can't thank you guys enough, so I mean to give me a gift, is like.
Speaker 3:So thankful, but just to be here, you got with you guys, is the true gift, like it really is. This is this is huge for me.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you made it all the way across Canada and I can't say this one you've been following us since day one, so fun, and day one supporter Absolutely right and it's nice that we made it happen and welcome to Toronto. Thank you very much, you know what?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a perfect way to leave us off. I just want to say, you know, thanks to everyone who supports small brands, who supports higher orbit. Go support Royal Harvest, grab yourself a sheesh I was.
Speaker 2:So the sheesh Support them. I got an email from my homie, michelle, somewhere in the United States. She said that she's looking to break into the cannabis industry and Ask me for some advice. So it was the first piece of fan mail I've ever gotten, so I'm gonna show you, michelle.
Speaker 4:Thanks, michelle, thanks for listening and shout out to Vansity Seth for hooking all this up buddy, I almost got my back brother.
Speaker 2:Shout out Vansity Seth. Thank you, homie. We'll be right back with Kev from Royal Harvest. We're back Back of the shop and we're still open hustling deliveries. Baby, let's go oh the door. We're back with our friend, kevin from Royal Harvest and a very special return co-host. Wait for it.
Speaker 3:Somalia. So many things world-class really. We're gonna get a great review out of her tomorrow, Lilian.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we just smoked that box of fruit cake. Kevin, so much love and tender loving, growing amazing this into thank you delicious dude.
Speaker 3:What do you think tomorrow? Yeah, I frosted fruit cake aficionado.
Speaker 2:Why don't you open that jar? You want to start with appearances and look and aroma and all that. Where would you like to start? Hi, happy to be here, thank you so much for having me lovely to meet you, you're wonderful.
Speaker 4:I loved here in your segment. Thank you for super fascinating.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much. Inspirational welcome back. Not gonna lie, we we already smoked some of this, so you know we might be somewhat intoxicated, but it will not prevent me from expressing my absolute, absolute delight at this, that top. Nugget is wild I when you smell it, your eyes kind of roll to the back of your head a little bit. I mean, would it be inappropriate to call it orgasmic?
Speaker 2:I'm not sure. Oh damn, I love it. But you know, just I said the closest thing to a legal quad right, Wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, this definitely falls into the category of exotic quads. From my perspective, the look of it, the smell, the smell is just extremely exciting, and what I was saying earlier is this flower translates in its taste so substantially. It's rare to smell a flower and actually taste exactly what you're smelling from first inhalation to the filter.
Speaker 2:No lie, I totally agree. Start to finish.
Speaker 1:I agree with you.
Speaker 3:It like coated them out a little bit. It like coats the mouth completely Really Like tongue-tickled in the nicest way.
Speaker 2:Tongue-tickling turps.
Speaker 1:I think we could call it like a lip smacker, you know, like Tongue-tickling turps, tongue-tickling turps, yeah yeah, I feel like you should put that on a T-shirt.
Speaker 2:I like that name Tongue-tickling turps. Tongue-tickling, teeth licking I'm looking at my new T-shirt, I have the new higher orbit, by the way.
Speaker 1:Nice, nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we're taking pre-orders now. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Rocking that hash hole.
Speaker 2:Shout out to HybridVisions. I think this is a sample, but I think it looks great. The color's really pop. You have the little sheesh soda like orbiting the hash hole, it's dope. Shout out to Sheesh. And Sorry, back to Tamara. I kind of stole your thunder there.
Speaker 1:Not at all. Not at all. This is a thunderous game that we're all playing.
Speaker 4:I just like to say it's To me it's interesting because in the black market legacy you just you know you get it out, it's out the door. But since coming into the legal side, it's like the way it's analyzed and looked at, you really start to understand just kind of what you have right, because I mean, you've got to get lost in the rat race, you know, for the last so many years so to have people that are actually focused on showing different strains and different qualities so people can understand it like you know, like liquors and stuff like that right.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and I think you know there's definitely a consumer out there that really cares about a high quality flower that is both beautiful in its look, correct moisture content and just smokes like a dream. I'm just checking out the tricomes right now. I'm pretty excited about what I'm seeing.
Speaker 2:You've seen a lot of representations of frosted fruitcake, am I not mistaken?
Speaker 1:I have. I'm a frosted fruitcake junkie Fanatic.
Speaker 3:Fanatic, yeah, that's much better Not to be worried about that, not to be worried about that. That's it.
Speaker 1:I think it's my number one, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's a very pleasant.
Speaker 1:Gas fruit baked goods and the smells on this I could just I could talk about this for longer than we have available, because it's just so robust in its expression.
Speaker 2:Now it's a fruity Papazol G wedding cake cross. Yeah, am I right about that? Yeah, okay, interesting.
Speaker 4:You guys just sacred cuts, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm kind of excited.
Speaker 2:This is the story on the Fino. Did you cut this yourself?
Speaker 4:No, no it's the breeder's cut.
Speaker 2:Got it.
Speaker 4:Okay, yeah, so it's pretty amazing, right Like it's, and what we pull out of it is just different.
Speaker 1:It's really special. The gas forwardness of it, complimented by baked goods and a multitude of fruits, is really exciting.
Speaker 4:And it's exciting it's going to be the first flower we have coming to the.
Speaker 2:OCS. Right, so it's yeah, so it'll be. When's this coming on?
Speaker 4:Well, supposedly for their spring launch, okay. Yeah, so we just got yeah, so whenever we're getting this is all new to me. Like I said, I'm learning on the fly I went from, like I said, here's a chance on this micro in the middle of nowhere to like, okay, now you got to figure all of it out. There's so much back end. It's insane.
Speaker 1:Wow, very exciting. I'm definitely going to be scooping some up ASAP, if I don't just take this home with me the Royal Harvest Banner right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when. Yes, yeah. When are we going to have CDs?
Speaker 4:Like April, I'm hoping for like 420 before that you guys have it and can you remind me what your Instagram handle is?
Speaker 1:I must follow you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's royal underscore harvest CC and the CCs for craft cannabis Beauty yeah.
Speaker 1:I will say that you know, if you are someone who is looking for a really robustly flavored, very high quality exotic quad, I would really consider Royal Harvest Frosted Fruitcake, because I think it knocks it out of the park for me.
Speaker 4:Oh, thank you very much.
Speaker 2:I think Kevin's entering into a competition is the knockout euphoric, knockout, tko, knockout, extravaganza, something like that. I don't know. What do you think?
Speaker 4:more about the competition. I think it's believers the heavyweight.
Speaker 2:Heavyweight. Thank you very much. I'm still catching up, so guys have been heavyweighted by the fruitcake.
Speaker 3:It's coming up in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2:It's coming up in the competition so you can buy tickets. Do you know how to buy tickets?
Speaker 4:Yeah, like I said, I'm not 100%. I'm not bringing the weed, I'm just bringing the weed I meant to follow up on how you can go to that event.
Speaker 2:Kev is entering his Frosted Fruitcake in the competition along with a bunch of other heavyweight growers, so that should be fun.
Speaker 1:And considering it's already an award winning cultivar, you're set up for success.
Speaker 4:Yeah, very blessed. I took the collector's cup and it was very humbling because when you could tell, because everything was in gyres numbered and when they hit that one it was just a different vibe Like it was very humbling, it was just like wow, so it was something special, right.
Speaker 1:The word that they use in that cup often is loud yeah, and I think that definitely applies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you very much. What is there anything in the pipe man Like? What's the next cultivar? I know we've talked a lot about the Frosted Fruitcake you got your shirt about. Is there anything like you can kind of divulge?
Speaker 4:Yeah well, not divulge, divulge, but just know that we're going to be rotating stuff. That's been here. Now that we have a little room to breathe, cool, you know, cause it was a little restricted, I only had so many much I could play with. But now that it's things have changed, now it's time to really have like I was we were talking about earlier. We're going to bring some old schools back. I'm looking to do some cool mix packs with old school, new school. You know what I mean? There's a lot of different things coming down the pipe.
Speaker 2:That's fun Like nostalgia with some of the new stuff, absolutely it's exotic, but then you get something old school, classic.
Speaker 4:Absolutely, that's fun, Absolutely. So it's just. You know it gives you the best of both worlds, right.
Speaker 3:So you know you're looking at having a lot of fun.
Speaker 4:Collaborations are going to be huge. Like I've got a lot of great extractor friends and guys that want to do a lot of work, so there's a boat to be a lot of some amazing things like popping off, coming down the pipeline. This is just the beginning, Like the door is just getting open, we're just getting rolling. So you know, as it's like, next comes the Fino hunting, the breeding, the everything you know. It's just going to be a lot of exciting times coming right, Like that's super exciting.
Speaker 4:Congratulations you know it's been a crazy 35 years, but this last year has been like insane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's wicked man. I'm really glad that like legacy growers are kind of starting to come online and you're starting to see like just those roots kind of just be available and dispensers to be accessible to everybody, right, and it's cool because you know there's so many.
Speaker 4:You know, just, we're becoming such great friends. All these other legacy growers it's not none of us. The whole vibe out West right now is not the great challenge against each other, it's the challenge to overcome the hurdles we're battling together Right. So it's great to see all of us, legacy and craft guys, and we all see the same vision. We all know that. You know we can't fight to be that spot. We all just fight together. So we all get to our spots, right. You know cause the piece of pie is big enough for everybody. You know how big is your piece of the pie. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:But it's there it's almost as a competition, but it's not. It's what you guys it's. Yeah, I know what you're saying With cannabis.
Speaker 4:It speaks for itself Like it's, it's all West. If you grew that weed, it goes. You know, just be your best, put out your best and it'll come. You know, and it's, you know, everybody's kind of working. It feels like it worked together by, but we're still all trying to become our best. You know, at the same time, right, so it's good.
Speaker 1:I want to go back to something you said earlier for a second. Have you actually dabbed any of the extracted version of of this frosty fruit cake by chance?
Speaker 4:Yeah, a little bit it's. It's insane Like there is like you even put that in the gummies and it smells like the fruit cakes.
Speaker 3:Like yeah, it is insane.
Speaker 4:What my buddy, uh Ryan, who was, was with riot well is Ross and unity in them. He's going to come on. We're getting ready to do solving this labs at the new place, right, so he's. You know, when I was legacy, he would had access. So he has done a lot of he makes diamonds the cleanest diamonds you've ever seen out of my trim, you know. So it's amazing what can be done with it.
Speaker 1:So I can only imagine what uh did?
Speaker 2:I hear you got a hash. Can we talk about that or no?
Speaker 4:I'll just say there's some cool stuff going on with some amazing people, you know, and it's all about us all coming together and it's great to see. It's like we were talking earlier, you know. I had kind of said you know, I want to bring that community back, but you were like, can it be done? We need to create that community. So that's what we're in the process doing now in the cannabis and it is creating the community that needs to be, and I see it happen every day. The changes started. We just got to keep at it, keep pushing, and it's, it's coming, I mean for your kids and their kids. You know, like we're the beginning. We're the ones are going to start the change. You know what I mean. So we start now. So, like when we're dead and gone, there's a better way, there's a better system, there's a better program to. You know, there's so much more we can do with this. It's we're being repressed on with all the bullshit, right.
Speaker 2:So totally do. Yeah, I think you're right. It's all about collaboration, non-competition. I guess that's why I keep cutting better yeah.
Speaker 3:Healthy competition yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:That's when it comes down like at the end of helping each other.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Right, you're still a company, you're still striving to be your best as a company, but you don't need to hurt anybody. Step, you know like you got to just keep working in your own lane.
Speaker 2:What do you think were the biggest hurdle? Man Like making the transition? Anybody listening to like I don't know. You help them out. The biggest one of the?
Speaker 4:hardest parts was like literally leaving everything behind, but nothing I still ain't made it down. Do you know what I mean? I've been honestly on that, sleeping on coaches. I've had like shut up the vans that he set again.
Speaker 4:Cooler cooler is the food to help me out, Cause I'm I'm not the guy to ask. You know what I mean. So, because they've made it so hard for us to get there, it's like the struggle's real. Everybody is feeling it, Everybody. Nobody is breathing it between taxes, between all the rent tape, between all the fees. Why are you raining? Just a little break. Let's start with a little and then let's show them what we can really do.
Speaker 4:Like I said, we lost our respect in the beginning. So now is our chance to build it and as we gain respect as an industry, as a business, as a person and not looked at it, the God has flipped. You know what I mean. Like it's as we get our respect back again. You're so important because of the education, so huge, so we need to educate and create community. So that's what we're going to start doing and through that is growth. Like, to me, cannabis is my gift. Making a real change, a real shift in the world is kind of my, what I feel like I want to try to do through this right. So that's kind of the dream and vision I live with.
Speaker 2:Agreed man. Yeah, I totally think you nailed something on the head there. Like ones, our industry kind of develops, hopefully a little more Like me and Charlie were talking about this the other day like I feel like we're not taking seriously enough sometimes like in the grants schema, things does that make sense and I kind of get like.
Speaker 2:I don't know health care is more important to get that, and education, and. But hey, man, we're paying a lot of taxes here and I just feel that like we should at least be being heard. We can and we're not being heard right now. So I know it'll come with due time and due process, and hopefully soon, but I'll hold my breath, gotta, keep on fighting the good fight, though, right yeah.
Speaker 3:Should get the numbers on that, like what the legal cannabis industry adds, like to the GDP, like as a percentage.
Speaker 1:It's substantial.
Speaker 3:It has to be right, Like yeah.
Speaker 1:And the cannabis industry also saw the most bankruptcies of any industry across the board in the past couple years or something.
Speaker 2:That's a fact which is pretty sad. That sucks and I always say that too Like we were like here for the darkest days of the pandemic, right, like nobody was like leasing anything like commercial, anything right, so except for the cannabis guys, and they had us welcome to us with open arms, then if you know what I mean, yeah, but anyways, we'll get there, guys.
Speaker 4:Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2:Tax reform required sometime soon.
Speaker 4:Immediately. Yeah, it's like immediately, like truly like, come on, like if they give us a little bit more room to actually make, then we can create more. Like most of us are just looking to grow this and make this right. Fire more people, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:so level up Absolutely More products and then let the consumers pay. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Like the taxes can come through that channel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Absolutely Tomorrow. Where can we find you on Instagram?
Speaker 1:I am canna lily consulting. That's new of my company and it is canna lilyconsulting.
Speaker 2:We'll be right back. We're gonna get some North of Brooklyn pizza with Kevin. We need to eat.
Speaker 3:Thanks for listening, guys.
Speaker 2:I think it like. Don't forget to follow it higher orbit and drink a sheesh. Sheesh is a great pairing with pepperoni pizza. Oh yeah, don't forget.
Speaker 3:Welcome back. How was the pizza boys Fucking fire?
Speaker 2:Man Charlie is a newly found gluten intolerant. Yeah, I'm giving Kevin the background. It's awful Sucks, charlie the Mrs Pizza. He was very.
Speaker 3:Shout out to North of Brooklyn pizza.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shout out to homies. I don't know if you guys saw on the side of the box that said plug grassy us.
Speaker 3:They always do something, really jokes. That's cool.
Speaker 2:And they drew a little animation of a plug.
Speaker 3:You got the plug. Animation I wish we should track each time. Each time was funny. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:Cheech and Chong was great Cheech and Chong's funny, I guess. I don't know. I was gonna ask them if I was Cheech.
Speaker 3:You must be Cheech and Chong I might have been it known was Cheech and or Chong Cheech and or Chong Cheech and or Chong on the side.
Speaker 3:Little Chuck, charlie's little Chuck. Nice, yeah, we're back. We're in the back of the shop with Kevin Barnard and our homie from Royal Harvest Definitely zooed it off that weed. I was just whiffing this shrew bow that you busted up, so this is the other. This is. We'll also see this. Yeah, one mistake in right, yeah, yeah, oreo and shrew bur, right, yeah, oh man, it smells wonderful. I was more inclined towards the frosted fruitcake, but this also just smells equally fire.
Speaker 4:That's kind of the cool thing about the program that I can run whatever strain and we're going to pull that real nice profile out right so you're able to get that smell, that flavor off each one. It's great.
Speaker 3:Interesting. So do you find like you take that same approach, Like, speaking of the program, the style you grow? You know you can't really like explain it, I know it's up in the dome, but like what, what does the program entail for you? You know what can you share.
Speaker 4:Well it's. You know I keep it pretty basic. Old school gorilla grower. Right Like I'm in dirt. You know I like my pots a bit bigger. You know what I mean. I grow a little bit bigger of a plant and you know the food program is is. I started off with GH and then tried everything, been through everything and I'm still going to even play around with more, because we're always trying to learn and progress. But I went back to that for these last so many years and it's been really consistent to me, just through some numbers together, played a little with this, kept it simple and, yeah, very blessed.
Speaker 3:Wow, there must be some variation amongst the plant. I guess it just kind of comes naturally as you're applying the principles that you well yeah it's.
Speaker 4:You know I can run multiple strains of room and you know same program, same plan and quality is just there, right? So it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I'm super into telling me I just started growing. I'm running my second run and my little AC infinity got a white truffle genetic and then a motor breath, which I'm really interested about, and it's the first time I'm growing from clone, which is like a lot different from seed, as you know. Yep, I guess man tell me the give me some advice as like, as like an amateur grower doing a second grow. You know, I want to, I want to. I have a question for you. I guess I'm going to ask you like a point blank. I was thinking like I was really happy with, like I think you saw the weed that I grew. I did.
Speaker 4:I actually have a piece of it.
Speaker 2:There you go, I think, for a first effort is pretty good, but I wasn't happy with, like, I just want more Terps. Obviously, you want more Terps every time right, you're trying to get better. But how? How do I dial that in man, like? I guess it's hard to put that into like words.
Speaker 4:It is like it's like everybody's got their way of going. Everybody has a food, a feed program. Yeah, you know, mine has just been years of a little bit of this, little less of this. This is working, this isn't so. I've seen with you whatever you're using, pay attention to it, watch your plant, see how it reacts. Right You'll, you know, you'll progress your own style, get your own flavor yourself.
Speaker 2:One thing I had a question about and it came to me I was thinking about recently is I mixed my nutrients in a bucket Like do I need? How do I? How do you mix your nutrients? Like just something, does a machine mixer for you?
Speaker 4:Is that definitely something that you have to work with? And tanks, was circulating pumps right, so the tanks were just circulating themselves over what we're mixing, right?
Speaker 2:Because I found that I was getting, I think, like nutrient burn and I'm wondering if it's because I was like not mixing my nutrients.
Speaker 4:You got to circulate just get a little so you can get a certain stick. Well, you can even get little, just little pumps that you can stick to the side of that tank. Okay, turn it on and it'll just keep it moving for you Like a little aerator. Yeah, yeah, air aerator. There's tiny little pumps. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:What Not?
Speaker 4:liquid, pardon me In the liquid, yeah, so it just keeps it circulating the whole time, so it's always staying mixed, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I use these self watering pots, the ones from the underneath. Would you put your nuts in the water underneath or should I still give them like on top, on top, on top? All right, I was making sure. I was wondering. I was like I don't know man, I'm just Me.
Speaker 4:That's my opinion. You know what? But my opinion. I would just keep it simple while I'm on top.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I realized there was like a few. I was like I have this like wealth of knowledge. It's great. I went on the show so I figured I'm gonna try to keep it.
Speaker 4:I try to keep the environment and everything else away. I used to get so technical when I started my round and have my water a little chilly. Then I would warm it up like I hit the summer. Then I would chill my water off again towards the finish, right Like I've done so many manipulations in the environment.
Speaker 4:You know learning what does work, what doesn't work. You know what temps you need, where you need to be, because a plant doesn't know what time it is. They know everything is triggered with their hormone through temperature, so all of that indicates when their change comes, what's going to change. You know learning when those important changes come in your strange right. So getting that down. You know getting your leafing on time. You know you know all that other stuff right, so it's fun learning. This has been the craziest, most blessed experience of my life and to be here, being able to really have a chance to put my all into something that I truly believe in like this. It's like I said, so it's mind blowing right now. So it's, you know. Enjoy the process. You know what I mean. Grow the way you want. You know you're going to do the research.
Speaker 4:You're going to read, you're going to, you know, do your thing, but just find it really changes like genetics.
Speaker 2:Genetic it does, doesn't it? And I guess I got to monitor that too.
Speaker 4:Like I said I, can I get the same results? Yes, you know, sometimes I get heavier yielders, less, but the quality is still there. So I mean, when you get that system that works technically it should work on every strain. But you do have to make some slight adjustments because different strains vary a bit.
Speaker 2:but you'll you'll learn them. What are you growing? So there's white truffles and then motor head. Motor head, White truffles and motor head. Yes, and I was taking back one of the the best. I went to a dispensary in Seattle and I asked the bartender for the gaseous, the crazy, the craziest gas he had on his menu. And I went to there was a crazy super dispensary. I wish I could remember the name of it, but the bartender knew exactly, cause I had been to some other ones and, just just like you know, you get varying degrees of bartenders that know you're talking about. And this guy knew exactly and he nailed it and he recommended this. It was called motor breath number nine and this is a motor breath cross, so I was kind of like just drawn to it for that reason Cause it was something that I really liked.
Speaker 2:It was like I guess nostalgia or whatever.
Speaker 4:No, I get it, and it's the fun thing about cannabis. There's so many different varieties, different smells, different chase, so it's like the chase almost never stops.
Speaker 2:That's the fun part, isn't it? Absolutely, I guess you're right. You're always like the chase. You nailed it. That is what it is it's.
Speaker 4:It's harder when you say what's your favorite? I don't know. You know I'm still chasing that different, like there's so much uniqueness in the mall, you know, so it's flavor chasers, yeah yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3:It was a good way to put it. I'm starting to like, not dislike things, or you know what I mean. Like I sometimes I used to not like things, but it can always be done. Well, you know what I mean. I can appreciate it for what it is. Yep, it might not be for me.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean Exactly right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, everything has its place. It's interesting to see all these new genetics coming. I wonder what I'll come up next.
Speaker 2:What's I gotta ask you, you know what's being a leader like. What's, what's it like on the grower side of things? You have like some, some people like I know you're probably really hands on, but you must, now that you're scaling up, you've had to hire some people and boss up, right?
Speaker 4:Yeah Well, the people that's the next level, right, the next level is going from learning how to delegate and put the system in place. Put all that work into a plan that they see, okay, yeah, this works. It's not just him being hands on. He can really make this happen. But I've been very blessed. The place that we did scale to the guy who's there, carl, he's been there since pretty much the beginning, got a great assistant master grower Britt. Like an amazing team Like that's you could tell right from the bat. You know what they are capable of, who they are. They're passionate about it, right. They've been there through the good and the bad times at this place and I mean it were. We've really come together as a team. They see my vision and it's like it's showing. Like that room is insane. If you guys were closer I'd say you gotta come for a look because it's like. It's like, yeah, it's, it's about to be a I can't wait, man.
Speaker 2:I'm sure your room is a crazy insane. I've only been to BC once, but I look forward to getting back out there. I'll definitely come check it out.
Speaker 4:Absolutely, it's a great state out there right now for really for the cannabis industry. Everybody's on the same page, everybody's working to the same goals and you know together it's it's. It's a real good scene there. That's why I'm excited to come to Ontario right Start start to see how it plays out here and you know work on it Like so much respect to everybody down here doing it and I want to see us right across Canada to be able to build together.
Speaker 3:Can people grab your weed in BC right now? Oh yeah, okay, there you go.
Speaker 2:Did you grow, learn how to grow in BC? How long you've been living out there? No, it started. Like I said on the East coast Sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 4:It started there and then it just it's been like everybody that I, all the older guys that I kind of learned from, all went to West. You know what I mean, and they were.
Speaker 2:You know that's what I was going to say, like I guess, and typically, normally speaking, I would say, you wouldn't say like the fire weed comes from out East, would you? No, no, no, but hey, man, you're changing the game.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but it won't. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, I, I am where I am because to do what we want to do. The hub of, you know, cannabis in Canada is BC you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I would say for the map got right, yeah For the power, for the history and yeah, the quality that's coming out of there for so long. Just the natural habitat, because you just like California, like BC, right, you get the, you get the best raise the maximum.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, so it's, it's got to be, you know, there to start for the homage of it all. But I mean this like I said, this is about to grow something really great that's going to stretch right across the globe, right, which is pretty cool feeling.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, man, I feel like your passion and and and everything that you do really shines through and I'm really glad we were able to have you on the podcast.
Speaker 4:Like I said, a blessing for you guys to have me. It's about us all working together to help each other, and that's what's happening right here. It's beautiful to see.
Speaker 2:You want to tell us a little bit about your curing process? I feel like it's a really important underrated. We always talk about that all the time on the show, like I guess obviously you can't divulge all your trade secrets or anything like that, but you know, I think it's like something that gets overlooked a lot of the time by a lot of people.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Every, every step is important. I've learned how to cure many different ways at many different speeds, you know. But in nowadays I let the plant speak to me, like I look for certain traits of where I am in my dry and everything else where I want to want to take that and cure that up. And honestly, each strain is kind of different. You know what I mean. And each strain sometimes takes a bit longer and keeps. Some takes longer and cure before they pop. So it's just learning the traits of each strain you're running and then, once you dial that in, it's like clockwork, you know. So I mean, as far as timing, each strain is kind of different a little bit. You know what I mean. Summer, you know, and, yeah, let the plant speak for itself.
Speaker 3:Sounds like so much fun, definitely.
Speaker 2:You said about lollipopping being important. Is that what you mean about? Like, like de-leafing, defoliating?
Speaker 4:But yeah, you got it Lollipopping like definitely important.
Speaker 2:That's the term. Quote, unquote Well yeah, like I always take too much off. I guess I'm gonna I'm gonna video call you next time. Yeah, absolutely, I'm like, I'm like I don't know how to say this, but I feel like I'm like I gotta take this one off, because I took one off on this side and then I got and then all of a sudden I'm going no, I give it too much hair cut, See just the bottom ones no.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, for the most part, but there's a lot of.
Speaker 2:Is that what I'm going for? Sorry.
Speaker 4:No, no, it's okay, but you just the leaves Like they don't, you don't need your bottom buds. It's a waste of energy. You know what I mean. But again, I like to grow a full plant. To me, I believe, the closest it is to its natural structure is the most you're going to get out of it. So I do manipulate, but I'm not an over manipulator. I don't over leaf. I do selective leafing. I just pop out enough I can to get my light in, but I leave a lot of leaf. Do you know what I mean? I bring it up, I let the strain dictate myself. It depends how big of a stretcher it is. Is it a short pants? If it's short like you know, most of my bottoms anywhere, like golf balls, right, so it's not bad anyway. But again, it's important to get rid of all that little stuff. Doing it good. Open up your leafing to get light inside, so even your centers, you know, are getting what they need.
Speaker 2:Okay, thanks, man. I think you articulated that really well. I'm gonna like listen to that in my head next time I'm doing it. Yeah, you can tell you get really fired up.
Speaker 3:I love it. Yeah, it is yeah.
Speaker 4:Passing it every day.
Speaker 3:We're gonna have to go see that facility at some point. Maybe that's the now, that's the journey. That's the journey.
Speaker 4:That'd be good. We'll do like a part two out there. There you go, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'd be amazing. Yeah, we can't wait. I'd love to go.
Speaker 4:Because you guys do a little BC tour, right. Yeah, man Charlie's on the road, I'd love to man, yeah. So where are all?
Speaker 2:of the houses in the same. No, they're kind of spread out in different parts of BC. They're all in that same community.
Speaker 4:All the growners, all the firing? Well, no, that it's funny how it works. When it first started with the micro, I lived three and a half hours away from it, so I was doing a day so okay, the way life worked Three and a half hours, your micro dude.
Speaker 4:One way, yeah, works each way. I drive back, so seven hours round trip a day. Damn Plus work to make in the middle of nowhere, running off a generator. So it has not been an easy grind at all, but you know how it works. So, anyways, the way life worked. They ended up starting to spend more time at the micro, but then we get this new place that is back where I first lived. So now it's again. Three and a half hours, the micro is still going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's the last jar from that micro.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, the one that you brought today is the last jar from the micro. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so the new facility will stay tuned, but he said it's going to be even better, which I can't even fathom. Oh wow.
Speaker 4:Okay, and this is where I'm being for real, like because of the obstacles, part of me and stuff I had to battle with environment generators shutting down all the problems that I had.
Speaker 4:You know, nobody has really seen the caliber of what I can do, you know. So it's, it's, I see what's coming. You know, I'm just from, I'm weak, going on week five in there and I'm like man, the smells, the stickiness is just on a different level already. So it's kind of like all right, now we're about to get serious, Now we're about to see it Really cool caliber of cannabis.
Speaker 3:We're gonna see them in sevens, right? I think yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so. So my plan is I I want to get into everything, I want to fit every need and every niche right, but I want to make them big enough. So they're. I want to promote getting. You know, I like a bigger joint, I like a bigger bag, yeah, but you know I want to make it big enough so people can access it and it's not out of you know, out of a price range and out of pocket for them to get. And then, once it gets rolling, you know, like I said, we're just coming out of the gate trying to do it right. So I mean, as we get rolling, we'll be able to fill every size that's needed, right?
Speaker 2:Nice, I mean this to me. Now I'm like rolling up another one, like I feel like this will be the kind of flower that I could like recommend to that guy that Comes in and is like nah, bro, I'm just here like I get my weed, you know other places, I'm just in a dispensary to grab a little bit. Today, like I feel like I could convince them. Like now, man, things are changing, yeah well you know what I'm saying, like yeah, yeah, right. Like I hate to say it, but that happens a lot.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but anyways, man, I mean that as a compliment to you and the testaments, what you're doing, yeah. I appreciate that Giving us really good weed that I can recommend confidently, you know yeah, no, I appreciate.
Speaker 4:I had a pretty cool message there one time from a quartz Creek which is a dispensary in golden, and they have sent me a message. They're like I'm just letting you know that all the old growers was all the old growers from town came and bought up all the frosted fruit cake. So to me that is important because I don't, you know Y'all was here, all your con legit and da da da. But you know it's because we did it's. It really has to become something right, you know, and it's great to see the support. You know what I mean in the love like that. So it's, it's super cool.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I appreciate that.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, I can't wait to grab bags. But dude, yeah it's a blessing, yeah it's really cool we have. We've come a long way. I mean, you know, you're definitely I we're happy to highlight you too as you enter the market. Yeah, people need to know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm looking forward to you winning this KO competition. That's coming out too, so yeah, good luck.
Speaker 4:I mean there's a lot of good growers in there, so I mean I'm doing this for fun. Winner lose, I'm gonna show up.
Speaker 2:Sorry, maybe I was a little bit Over boystress, but I'm just trying to give you how many?
Speaker 3:how many people are entering, how many gross he probably doesn't know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking probably between eight and ten eight and ten. I think so.
Speaker 3:I'm not exactly sure, I'm just well you know what I think is very cool, like so you mentioned it's gray market and Hopefully there's more than one legal Entry, but you're entering and I remember we had someone on.
Speaker 2:Roger in the he happening sesh.
Speaker 3:We just got to keep that wasn't happening.
Speaker 2:That's like a lot more collaborations happening and even if they are black market people kind of coming on the legal side. It's just good to see right.
Speaker 3:Did these do? Eventually we need to, yeah, exactly. Because of that right, yeah we need more of that, you know like, so it's absolutely yeah, no, we'll get better and better, and it is getting better and better as we're getting to the end.
Speaker 2:I can't believe we're almost at the end of season two. I got to say thanks to all our listeners. Subscribers if you're not subscribing, thanks for listening right now. Hit the subscribe button. Don't forget to give us a follow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're sure with a friend, like if you're getting some, some value out of the the conversations we're having, we really appreciate it and that's how we can grow organically.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely You'll do. Charlie fucking nailed it.
Speaker 1:Thanks for calling the sheesh hotline Are you gonna watch out? Cuz zero and tell us about it.
Speaker 3:It always fucks it up.
Speaker 1:Matter of fact, tell us whatever, just hash it out. You might end up on our Instagram. Yeah, sheesh. Leave a message at the tone.
Speaker 3:Maddie, you got to come meet our boy Kevin. Yeah, what's up, matt? You tried out your sheesh soda.
Speaker 2:How many cherries at a five. Oh man, it's a five out of five. Five cherries. Yeah, man, it's so good. I'm thinking like those donkey Kong cherries too, you know, like the ones, like the big ones, and eat them. And you're like, yeah, cherries, I don't know, no, there's cherries. Anyways, it's a hell of a sheesh, sheesh, it's a hell of a soda. Thank you so much for joining us today, kevin. Thank you guys, fire weed can't wait to more. Comes out much, very, absolutely blessed. Thanks for joining us in the podcast, bro.
Speaker 3:Thanks. I also want to shout out to thanks tomorrow for popping in and checking on your cross for free takeout. It's a high praise.
Speaker 4:Very, you know from a person that knows yeah.
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