Ascending to a HigherOrbit

In the Series Premier; cannabis retailers, Sean and Charlie Kady, two 90’s kids and contributors to the pot culture in Toronto, discuss their backgrounds, motivation, goals and what influenced the decisions behind opening Cosmic Charlies.

This episode is an in-depth look at the vision behind the brand and two brother’s experience opening a cannabis dispensary in Canada’s most competitive retail location Trinity Bellwoods – Queen West, Toronto.

An outstanding reality podcast series recorded in the back of their flagship store.

Sean & Charlie provide insights, special guest interviews, reviews and stories about what it’s like operating in the legal cannabis market in Toronto.

Stories, humour, and the latest in bud. So roll one up, free your mind and join them on a HIGHERORBIT, you won’t be disappointed by this monthly show.

Transcript

Sean Kady (00:02):
Hi, I'm Sean Kady.

Charlie Kady (00:04):
And I'm Charlie Kady.

Sean Kady (00:06):
Welcome to Higher Orbit.

Charlie Kady (00:23):
Welcome to our first episode, guys. We're here from the back of the shop with my brother, Sean.

Sean Kady (00:32):
Very first episode. Welcome, everybody, to the podcast.

Charlie Kady (00:35):
Live again from the back of 821, this is Higher Orbit.

Sean Kady (00:41):
Yeah, a podcast where we give you a behind the scenes look of the cannabis industry in Canada, the landscape, what the journey's been like to open a cannabis retail store, and one of the hardest, most fiercely fought after markets, Queen Street West, and have some guests. A bunch of very interesting guests in the industry as well.

Charlie Kady (01:04):
Some of the people who move and shape it, right?

Sean Kady (01:07):
Move and shape it. Exactly, Charlie. You got it. And we hope to take you on that journey. We will be taking you on that journey and showing you what it's like to run a cannabis retail store in Toronto, Canada.

(01:23):
I guess we want to start with a little background, Charlie? What made you want to open a cannabis store, Charlie, and what were you doing before you opened a cannabis store?

Charlie Kady (01:32):
Well, yeah, I feel like it was a cross of our journeys really, in a sense and timing in a unique way of the opportunity but, background about us, we're from Toronto, grew up in East End.

Sean Kady (01:47):
Beaches-East York.

Charlie Kady (01:48):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (01:48):
Shout out! Beaches-East York area.

Charlie Kady (01:50):
That's right. Went to School of Business, had, I guess, more traditional experience in that sense.

Sean Kady (01:58):
Both very different journeys. You're more of a business background. You went to Ryerson, you have your business degree from there. I was more of a culinary, hospitality background, always worked in restaurants, right?

Charlie Kady (02:12):
Yeah, you have your degree.

Sean Kady (02:14):
I do. Yeah, I have a culinary management diploma from George Brown College. Thank you very much. What a great experience that was. That was right around the time when I really started selling cannabis, too, I would say. Would've been around that time, George Brown days. Needed income, let's be honest, and it seeded from this passion of, the weed was just never good enough. I was getting weed and it just wasn't good enough, Charlie. Do you remember those days?

Charlie Kady (02:41):
Of course.

Sean Kady (02:42):
You'd just get one kind and it was what it was and I just felt like, "There has to be something better than this." I remember being like, "I could do better than this." And I was really passionate about finding better weed is really what it all started with for me anyways.

(02:58):
I was like, "Well, why don't we tier things and find multiple kinds of weed?" And then that's where things took off for me, I think, really.

Charlie Kady (03:10):
Nice, so bringing on a bigger selection?

Sean Kady (03:14):
Yeah. I think that really, and being on time. I feel like, a lot of, for lack of a better term, back then you'd call somebody and you'd need some weed and you'd be waiting hours and you'd be like, "Dude, are you close or what?"

Charlie Kady (03:29):
I think that that's, well, you mentioned something funny though. So when you what, worked in restaurants, I mean, I worked at a restaurant too, you tie those two together and a lot of people in restaurants smoke weed, right?

Sean Kady (03:45):
Yeah. You're passionate about food. You're passionate about weed. I feel like they go hand in hand. A lot of people in hospitality are now in the cannabis industry and I think that the pandemic moved that forward faster. A lot of people I know that were in hospitality are now in weed because it was essential service, that [inaudible 00:04:05] going.

Charlie Kady (04:05):
Oh, me too.

Sean Kady (04:08):
And there are some similarities. We value good service at the store, right?

Charlie Kady (04:12):
Well, that's what I wanted to say and highlight. It's nice to see that start to translate. I feel like that was something important for us when we wanted to open up our own retail brand was have that service, have that product knowledge, the breadth, the curation, looking for the best. Like you said, you're like, "I can always do better."

Sean Kady (04:34):
I needed to find the best and that's really what it all stemmed with my background and legacy days and curating a good menu, having just something for everybody.

Charlie Kady (04:43):
Fire dank.

Sean Kady (04:44):
Good weed is different for everybody and people are looking for different profiles, and so, I'd have my different jars in a little suitcase. I don't know if you've ever seen the show High Maintenance on HBO, but similar to that running around and delivery was king.

Charlie Kady (04:59):
The guy.

Sean Kady (05:00):
Being on time, being the guy, and consistency and being on time really was what led to a lot of my success, I think. And having a good nose for it. Being able to sift through 15, 20 kinds of weed and be like, "These are the three, four that are actually the winners."

(05:20):
And I think that that's where I come from. I was working in restaurants, so first I was cooking. Cooking is great. I love food. I love cooking for my friends and family, but I learned very quickly that 40 to 60 hours a week in a kitchen just wasn't going to make me happy in life. So we try everything. I realised that quickly. There was more money in the front of the house. I'm really good with people. I love interacting with folks. So, it was a natural transition to just bartend and serve.

(05:49):
And I found even more, again, met more clients just being in the industry and grew just a black book of side hustle money and all of a sudden, before I knew it was just my main hustle. I was just part-time at the restaurant. I wasn't so much at the restaurant all the time, and I was able to just live that life, which was pretty awesome. It afforded me the ability to travel and-

Charlie Kady (06:12):
[inaudible 00:06:13].

Sean Kady (06:14):
[inaudible 00:06:13] really cool things and see amazing weed and hash and be exposed to a lot of amazing things. I remember back in the day too, was when vape pens weren't even a thing yet. I don't know if you remember that?

Charlie Kady (06:25):
Of course. I remember getting those. Yeah.

Sean Kady (06:27):
[inaudible 00:06:28] disposables. And I was getting these little disposable strain specific pens and they were just moving hotcakes, man because nobody else had them. It was just about being at that cutting edge.

Charlie Kady (06:39):
You know what's crazy?

Sean Kady (06:40):
Yeah?

Charlie Kady (06:41):
There are now, at least on the OCS, over 3000 products. Can you believe that?

Sean Kady (06:45):
3000 products?

Charlie Kady (06:47):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (06:47):
Wow.

Charlie Kady (06:48):
So, just to think about that and us trying to sift through that. We can't even say we've tried all that. There's salad dressing, dude.

Sean Kady (06:55):
Well, there's salad dressing. Yeah, exactly. Well, I think also that variety, that flavour of the week thing. That's definitely something in weed that it's not really as common in beer. Sure, you try a craft beer. Maybe you drink it once in a while, but it's a flavour of the month thing. Similar, right. It's seasonal. I don't know.

Charlie Kady (07:13):
That might be a harder problem to overcome in the cannabis industry because-

Sean Kady (07:17):
[inaudible 00:07:19]

Charlie Kady (07:19):
... you always want to find the next best thing. Well, yeah.

Sean Kady (07:22):
And I know that the OCS anticipates wanting to get to that 8,000. But anyways, back on track, history of me and you.

Charlie Kady (07:28):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (07:29):
Well, tell us a little about yourself, Charlie, back to.

Charlie Kady (07:32):
Yeah, well, like I said-

Sean Kady (07:33):
What were you doing before you opened the store?

Charlie Kady (07:37):
Service. I mean, always worked in service since I was a teen really. Did that whole thing.

Sean Kady (07:44):
Didn't you have a sales job? Weren't you in a sales job?

Charlie Kady (07:46):
Yeah, I didn't love it. There's still key skills there. At the end of the day, everything is sales. But ended up at the bank and then Covid happened.

Sean Kady (07:58):
Around 2020. I was at a tech job.

Charlie Kady (07:59):
Well, earlier than that.

Sean Kady (08:01):
Realised, I was still selling weed, making great money doing that. Understood that I needed to find a way to build a legal brand if I was going to keep doing this. And took a step back to make sure that I still wanted to be in weed. So I got this tech job. It was called, it was an REO platform. It was a B2B sales platform, and then that transitioned to, I hate that.

Charlie Kady (08:27):
Well, I think that probably we just saw the opportunity arise because there wasn't very many good stores coming when it was a lottery, right. And then Covid happened, and you didn't even have the job then.

Sean Kady (08:42):
True. Fair enough.

Charlie Kady (08:44):
I mean-

Sean Kady (08:44):
I guess I was just trying to get at we were trying to leave the corporate shill behind, right?

Charlie Kady (08:47):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (08:47):
We were over that.

Charlie Kady (08:48):
That's true.

Sean Kady (08:49):
What would be better than working with my brother?

Charlie Kady (08:51):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (08:52):
So that was what spawned our passion to start Cosmic Charlie's, right?

Charlie Kady (08:56):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (08:57):
I guess, is where I was trying to go with it.

Charlie Kady (08:58):
That's fair. I think just to bring it back to that. We saw that opportunity because there wasn't a lot of care or attention to some of the corporate stores in terms of so many things, the culture. Just going to a corporate from the days when you were flipping bags. Something didn't feel right there, for sure. You take that. You take the way the stores are built out, and you want to create something fun.

Sean Kady (09:28):
Yeah. Well, the landscape was pretty boring. A lot of green walls and white space and not too much. So we did want to bring a refreshing, energetic, positive, fun vibe to the Canadian cannabis retail space.

Charlie Kady (09:43):
Musical, funky, everything. All the things that we think cannabis is.

Sean Kady (09:47):
Cosmic Charlie's is born as an inclusive brand for everybody. And Stan's is like, "All aliens welcome, baby." So, from Pluto to Mars, wherever you're from, come say hi. 821 Queen Street West.

Charlie Kady (10:00):
Yeah, and we're live from 821, so check us out, Higher Orbit.

Sean Kady (10:04):
Higherorbit.ca is the website. We're on Instagram @HigherOrbit. We'll be back soon.

(10:21):
Welcome back to Higher Orbit. A big part of this show is going to be product reviews. We're really excited to bring you the latest and greatest stuff that's coming out in the industry, and we're excited to announce it's going to be like our Oscars, I guess you would say, right, Charlie?

Charlie Kady (10:37):
420 to 420.

Sean Kady (10:37):
420 to 420, the season's going to run. We do have our winners chosen. We aren't going to announce them yet. We'll keep you guys waiting, but they are Higher Orbit Space Traveller Award.

Charlie Kady (10:55):
Yeah, let me see. So for those who can't see, this is a little astronaut we have here. We're going to retrofit and we'll award the best in each category of those 3000 products.

Sean Kady (11:09):
3,000 so far, but we have six categories, right, Charlie?

Charlie Kady (11:13):
Six categories, yes.

Sean Kady (11:14):
And it's going to be based on obviously sales volume, our opinions obviously, and our budtenders and our clients. So we've gotten feedback from everybody and have chosen our best. The categories are going to be infused pre-roll, pre-roll, flower, edible, beverage, and-

Charlie Kady (11:41):
Drink, vape.

Sean Kady (11:42):
Well, you forgot vape, and then we're doing topical, even though I know you didn't want to, but we're doing-

Charlie Kady (11:47):
That makes it seven, I guess.

Sean Kady (11:48):
Does that make it seven? So seven. We're doing the topical.

Charlie Kady (11:51):
I don't know. Showrunner doesn't like topical. I like topicals though. But anyways.

Sean Kady (11:59):
Moving on.

Charlie Kady (11:59):
Yeah, what's going to make them a winner? I guess, you already said, but respectively, that is the fun part. How do you grade a product? Is it innovative?

Sean Kady (12:12):
Well, each category is going to be a little bit different. Innovation has a big part to do with it, but I think it's going to be what, number one?

Charlie Kady (12:22):
Yeah, what's your most important factor?

Sean Kady (12:25):
I think it has to be the actual consumption at the end. It's got to be like-

Charlie Kady (12:31):
What does it do?

Sean Kady (12:33):
Yeah, the effects. I'm going to say effects is up there, and then the experience to get to said effects, right? That includes sensory experience, I'd say, smell, how [inaudible 00:12:46] tastes, smell, the way it looks. That's all part of the journey to get to the effects. You hear what I'm trying to say?

Charlie Kady (12:52):
Even brand now I think is important because you're like.

Sean Kady (12:55):
Oh, that's important too. Yeah. That's definitely important. Branding is super important.

Charlie Kady (13:00):
Especially in this new way that weed is sold.

Sean Kady (13:03):
Oh, yeah, a 100%. Branding is everything. Even in legacy now, if you don't have the wraps for everything and the branding bags [inaudible 00:13:16], everything that's happening right now, then forget about it. So that's definitely an important factor. I think just general volume and do the people like it?

Charlie Kady (13:25):
That's important.

Sean Kady (13:25):
That's important.

Charlie Kady (13:26):
Yeah, that's pretty important.

Sean Kady (13:27):
And as the foot soldiers or the dispensary when we budtend-

Charlie Kady (13:31):
[inaudible 00:13:31] also value. I feel like value's always a-

Sean Kady (13:34):
Value's a factor, but not as important.

Charlie Kady (13:36):
If you're looking for the best, period. Yeah, that's fair. I guess.

Sean Kady (13:39):
No, but it still has to be considered.

Charlie Kady (13:41):
Yeah. Consistency.

Sean Kady (13:43):
Consistency. Thank you. Yes. Especially when we're talking scalability and sometimes our favourite products start to try and service other markets, and you-

Charlie Kady (13:54):
Watch them drop off [inaudible 00:13:55].

Sean Kady (13:58):
[inaudible 00:13:56] it just changes. I don't know about the drop off, but it changes, right. It becomes more commercialised.

Charlie Kady (14:03):
Yeah. That's tough.

Sean Kady (14:04):
So really excited to, well, which one [inaudible 00:14:09] announce first. We're going to announce all of them at the same time?

Charlie Kady (14:11):
Yeah, I think we will. We will. Yeah, we will.

Sean Kady (14:13):
Okay.

Charlie Kady (14:14):
I'm definitely excited for beverages, right. What we have next.

Sean Kady (14:17):
Oh, yes.

Charlie Kady (14:18):
Next episode.

Sean Kady (14:18):
And on the next episode, we are going to have Matt Chircus from She Sodas. So look out for that. Really excited to have you on Matt.

Charlie Kady (14:28):
Yeah, so definitely products, that's a fun part of the job. I can't wait to have some good guests on the show and get to know about a side that we don't really get to know, and maybe other people don't, right. Get to shine a little bit of light on that. And I mean, it's funny to talk about all these products, and I do love them, and we do get to have our award, which I think is great, and at the end of the day, it's always for people to get better, but it's also so tough. People probably grow lots of nice stuff and then it ends up being dusty.

Sean Kady (15:02):
Yeah, it's tough. Well, I think that's the growth cycle of cannabis always makes it really hard because you never know what you got until you get to those late stages, and I guess that one makes the phenol hunt so important.

Charlie Kady (15:16):
Right.

Sean Kady (15:17):
Finding the genetics that are going to produce what you need and then keeping up with it, right, and losing the mother and the [inaudible 00:15:25]. I heard a terrible story recently about the rose gold [inaudible 00:15:32]. The rose gold runs, but apparently we won't be seeing those for a while. It's just mother nature, man. It happens. I think it's public. I think it's fine to talk about it.

Charlie Kady (15:43):
Fair.

Sean Kady (15:45):
So stay tuned.

Charlie Kady (15:47):
Yeah, well, check us out higherorbit.ca. You can see it, what, Sean, your email is sean@higherorbit.ca?

Sean Kady (15:52):
sean@higherorbit.ca.

Charlie Kady (15:54):
Mine's Charlie.

Sean Kady (15:55):
charlie@higherorbit.ca. If you have any questions or if you want to be on the podcast, send us an email.

Charlie Kady (16:02):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (16:02):
We'd love to hear from you.

(16:15):
Welcome Back to Higher Orbit.

Charlie Kady (16:18):
We're in the back of the shop. Trinity-Bellwoods, 821 Queen Street West.

Sean Kady (16:22):
Cosmiccharlies.shop, baby.

Charlie Kady (16:26):
That's right. The one and only.

Sean Kady (16:28):
Best cannabis dispensary in Canada. Let's go.

Charlie Kady (16:33):
Shots fired. I like it. We will have hot takes on the show that's for sure. I guess we just got to open that up a little bit, but.

Sean Kady (16:40):
Yeah, did you have something you wanted to get off your chest, Charlie? I guess, this more open forum, I mean.

Charlie Kady (16:46):
Yeah, no, just back to what we're all about. I mean, what do we banter about? What's our on and on, right. There's always-

Sean Kady (16:57):
Well, what are you smoking right now? That's an easy one.

Charlie Kady (16:59):
Oh, wow. What are you smoking? It's pretty, 1964 is pretty fire, but I like their super lemon haze.

Sean Kady (17:07):
Super lemon haze?

Charlie Kady (17:07):
Yeah, that was really-

Sean Kady (17:08):
Too hazy for me. It is nice though. It's old school. It's super dense. Very frosted. It smells amazing.

Charlie Kady (17:15):
Smells great. Organic, right?

Sean Kady (17:18):
There's a harshness to it though. There's a quality to it that I was like-

Charlie Kady (17:21):
Is there?

Sean Kady (17:22):
... I couldn't smoke a lot [inaudible 00:17:23] tonne of it, but-

Charlie Kady (17:25):
Anything that's lemony is like sharp, I find. Yeah, they're sharp turps.

Sean Kady (17:31):
That's your pick this week? 1964? That's super lemon, eh.

Charlie Kady (17:35):
Sean's so underwhelmed. It's super lemon, eh.

Sean Kady (17:42):
No, it's good. I'm just not a [inaudible 00:17:42]. Yeah, that's what you got from me, Charlie.

Charlie Kady (17:45):
Wow.

Sean Kady (17:46):
I'm joking.

Charlie Kady (17:47):
Don't be rude.

Sean Kady (17:47):
I'm going frost, you know how I'm going frost the-

Charlie Kady (17:49):
Frost.

Sean Kady (17:50):
The frosted fruitcake, the rotating strains. It has to be. That is amazing.

Charlie Kady (17:56):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (17:57):
It tastes like Exactly the name says. I honestly feel like there's a Christmas cake quality to it. It is almost like a clementine.

Charlie Kady (18:05):
They definitely need to be, [inaudible 00:18:07] I kept on them.

Sean Kady (18:08):
Clementine with dried fruits and this cakey sweetness. It's so good. It's just like, to me, that's the perfect hybrid. It's a really good one. I could smoke that all day. Really excited to see what Frost does next. Definitely up and coming producer out of Burlington, right?

Charlie Kady (18:26):
It's good to see, yeah, nice weed. I mean, it's pretty reasonably priced. I think it's hard to, again, get the perfect product in a legal bag, but I think that they're like some legacy guys and I don't know, they're bringing some heat to the game. It's nice to see. It'll get better and better, right. I mean, that's been the big journey really is funny enough, seeing it get better and watching these products come and go, and it's an interesting thing that we've experienced the past couple years, seeing this industry shape itself, eh.

Sean Kady (19:02):
Certainly. Certainly the outcomes will be our second 420. I guess it'll be our second anniversary this June at Cosmic Charlie's here. And we also got some stuff coming up on 420 we can talk about.

Charlie Kady (19:12):
[inaudible 00:19:12].

Sean Kady (19:13):
Since 420 is coming up, we're going to be doing a charity barbecue at the store. Anybody's free to come by-

Charlie Kady (19:20):
Or charity pizza maybe.

Sean Kady (19:21):
Charity pizza, maybe. Undecided pizza or barbecue. Stay tuned. But basically we'll be giving out some food and a beverage if you make a donation, $4 and 20 cents, Cannabis Amnesty. We're going to be matching those donations as well, guys, so we'd love to see you come support. That'll be April 20th at the shop from 12 to 4.

Charlie Kady (19:41):
Yeah, we'll give away stuff too.

Sean Kady (19:42):
We'll have some giveaways that day as well.

Charlie Kady (19:43):
Discounts all day.

Sean Kady (19:44):
Discounts all day. If you're a Cosmo Pass member, lookout double points.

Charlie Kady (19:48):
How about weed and community?

Sean Kady (19:49):
Weed and community baby. And then we're going to be following that at night. We will be at Lavelle Nightclub on King Street West with Carmel is going to be there, Black Market, Codery, stores in Bickle, Bur Blanc Baby, I think, is doing a dab bar.

Charlie Kady (20:05):
Nice.

Sean Kady (20:06):
Rooftop lounge. I think, get there early because it's going to be busy if you're coming, but we're really excited about that as well.

Charlie Kady (20:13):
It's funny to always see the same cats now. It's like gotten drilled down the industry.

Sean Kady (20:20):
Well, I think that's because we've already been doing it for two years. You already see so many people have moved up and thinking about how many, which hopefully we'll be able to have some of them on the podcast. We can hope anyways.

Charlie Kady (20:32):
Yeah, that's true. I think that'll be a lot of fun.

Sean Kady (20:36):
So two years. One thing I'd like to see less of, I guess, Charlie, is the high percentage chasing game.

Charlie Kady (20:44):
Yeah. Yeah, that's hot right now. I mean.

Sean Kady (20:46):
It sells, unfortunately.

Charlie Kady (20:48):
Yeah, that's what's hilarious. I'm always conflicted. I'm like, you should just get it. I mean, we sell the one runs.

Sean Kady (20:54):
I know.

Charlie Kady (20:55):
[inaudible 00:20:55] need it.

Sean Kady (20:55):
Well, I start wondering, do we need to start asking for COAs? Do we need to start questioning where people get their testing done? Doesn't matter. Just sell the people what they want?

Charlie Kady (21:04):
Yeah. I also believe in that too.

Sean Kady (21:07):
Really?

Charlie Kady (21:07):
And well, yeah.

Sean Kady (21:08):
If they want to play the percentages game, we just let the consumer play it? You just have given up, eh? You've just given up?

Charlie Kady (21:13):
No, there are some-

Sean Kady (21:17):
I still try and [inaudible 00:21:19].

Charlie Kady (21:18):
Well, obviously I think that's why people come here. They like to learn about certain things like that, but some don't and that's fine too.

Sean Kady (21:26):
Fair enough.

Charlie Kady (21:27):
It's not good in general. Probably from the perspective of, yeah, price and what it does to the market with respect to, let's just say the assortment of high THC.

Sean Kady (21:38):
I think it always ends up coming down to the high THC comparison to the price, right?

Charlie Kady (21:43):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (21:43):
To be honest.

Charlie Kady (21:43):
Exactly.

Sean Kady (21:44):
Nowadays, they're like-

Charlie Kady (21:45):
That's it. That's what the data, but that's what's, it's weird. Yeah. You don't want to see too much of that influence, right. They say the data, I follow the data. I studied data, man.

Sean Kady (21:55):
Do we think that-

Charlie Kady (21:55):
You can't always, you can't always follow it to a T. You got to be careful.

Sean Kady (21:58):
Do we think the solvent-less trend means more to people in the industry, but not as much to the core consumer? That was something that I wanted ask you.

Charlie Kady (22:05):
Well, we try, but-

Sean Kady (22:07):
The solvent-less-

Charlie Kady (22:08):
It's a nicer buzz, but 10 milligrammes still doesn't do very much.

Sean Kady (22:11):
Really?

Charlie Kady (22:12):
That's, yeah. Yeah.

Sean Kady (22:14):
I find that with the solvent-less product, that it does affect me a little bit more than the distilled.

Charlie Kady (22:19):
A little bit more. A little bit more.

Sean Kady (22:21):
And if I stock it even just 20-

Charlie Kady (22:24):
Well, maybe that regulation will change. I don't know. It's going to take a while.

Sean Kady (22:30):
Yeah.

Charlie Kady (22:32):
It'd be cool to see though. But I mean, that would be a significant change really. I don't know. It seems weird because the industry was created and then it was almost like it crippled, obviously the grey black market, and then it's also just crippled from the get-go except for I guess, like lottery winners or chain stores maybe. They must be haemorrhaging too, but.

Sean Kady (22:55):
I'm just a little frustrated. I'm sorry, I was just thinking about edible limits, and we all know that they had the Jolts out and we had our Glitches that have been doing really well. [inaudible 00:23:05] I'm pretty sure they're gone in May, June. They stopped making them. I think that the supply has been made. Health Canada has issued them, ordered to basically stop.

Charlie Kady (23:16):
But see, maybe that's just the right stepping stone to them.

Sean Kady (23:21):
It's still, but why? It's already happened. People are already consuming this amount of THC.

Charlie Kady (23:26):
From a regulatory standpoint though, because they're not properly regulated. They found a loophole, right. But at least it's getting Health Canada to look at it from a perspective of, "Hey, this existed and it was fine."

Sean Kady (23:39):
My whole issue is why did they let it go through and now you're going to take it away. It's like, just don't let-

Charlie Kady (23:43):
Because it's a loophole and they don't understand it, right.

Sean Kady (23:45):
They [inaudible 00:23:46] still stop the product from me.

Charlie Kady (23:47):
They probably, they don't know what an edible extract is. Well, first of all, it never existed, but how would somebody at Health Canada, who's a [inaudible 00:23:54].

Sean Kady (23:54):
It's [inaudible 00:23:55]. That's literally what we're coming, it comes down to [inaudible 00:23:58]?

Charlie Kady (23:59):
You think a scientist at Health Canada knows what live Rosin is?

Sean Kady (24:04):
They should.

Charlie Kady (24:05):
Yeah, [inaudible 00:24:05].

Sean Kady (24:05):
That's all I'm trying to say.

Charlie Kady (24:07):
Yeah. It's hard to get nuanced with these weird products. I am curious to know how much the infused salad dressing is weight by gramme. I always love weight by gramme. Like some CBD products are just in ounce bath bombs. That's an ounce of weeds, sir.

Sean Kady (24:24):
No, but they changed that, didn't they?

Charlie Kady (24:26):
Certain ones.

Sean Kady (24:26):
Certain ones.

Charlie Kady (24:27):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (24:28):
[inaudible 00:24:28] so I can't believe you wanted to cut tops.

Charlie Kady (24:30):
That's what I mean though. Topicals? Okay fine. No. What was I saying? So with respect to them reviewing those regulations, it is important. Think about it. So those changed because people talked about it because it's annoying because we need people to be able to buy more drinks so that it's more accessible and more occasional if the industry wants to keep going, right.

Sean Kady (24:55):
Yes.

Charlie Kady (24:56):
So don't look at it. It's just part of the growing paints.

Sean Kady (25:01):
We can hope, I guess. We can hope. I still think that beverages would be great to see like 6 packs, 12 packs, actually [inaudible 00:25:10].

Charlie Kady (25:10):
If they weren't $30 though.

Sean Kady (25:10):
... if they weren't like a hundred dollars, yeah, it would be good. We'll get there though, eventually.

Charlie Kady (25:15):
Yeah. It'd be cool to have a regulatory person on the show. Maybe we'll pull that off some time. They probably can't talk to us though.

Sean Kady (25:23):
I was about to say, they'd just be so careful about what they can and can't say.

Charlie Kady (25:26):
There wouldn't be a lot.

Sean Kady (25:27):
[inaudible 00:25:27] really hard.

Charlie Kady (25:27):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (25:28):
It's almost like you want somebody that-

Charlie Kady (25:30):
Quit.

Sean Kady (25:30):
... used to work there.

Charlie Kady (25:31):
Yes.

Sean Kady (25:31):
Yeah, exactly, right?

Charlie Kady (25:34):
Yeah.

Sean Kady (25:35):
Did you get anything juicy?

Charlie Kady (25:36):
Yeah, there'll be juicy stuff.

Sean Kady (25:38):
There'll be juicy stuff though. Tune in, guys. Yeah, it's going to be fun.

Charlie Kady (25:41):
Yeah, we want to hear your feedback. We'd love to hear questions if you want to.

Sean Kady (25:45):
Yeah, that could be fun, actually.

Charlie Kady (25:46):
Yeah, shoot us questions.

Sean Kady (25:46):
Shoot us [inaudible 00:25:47].

Charlie Kady (25:48):
Charles or Sean [inaudible 00:25:49] Higher Orbit.

Sean Kady (25:50):
Yeah.

Charlie Kady (25:51):
At Higher Orbit for Instagram. Yeah, we're at the back of the shop.

Sean Kady (25:56):
Oh, don't forget, we're on cosmiccharlies.shop is the shop Instagram and our backup is cosmiccharlies.ca because yeah, they'd be watching.

Charlie Kady (26:04):
Dude.

Sean Kady (26:05):
What's up?

Charlie Kady (26:06):
We got to open the store.

Sean Kady (26:08):
Damn, we got to open the store, y'all. Until next week, look out. Matt Chircus from She Sodas is going to be on the show. We're very excited. Thanks for tuning in.

Charlie Kady (26:19):
Thanks for tuning in.